Did NATO react appropriately to Russia?

I say that again with a view of the “last summer in peace”. We don’t see any confrontation yet. The prudent reaction of NATO also contributed to this. The Russians have not made a big breakthrough in Ukraine. There is still NATO-you could doubt that if you remember the shock of the speech of the US Vice President Vance in Munich and the meeting between Trump and Selenskyj in the White House in February.

It was a powerful reaction to shoot Russian drones. This is a new development. At the same time, you did not become hysterical, you have reacted prudently and also communicated that well. Who knew beforehand that Dutch F-35 jets were stationed in Poland? That was more of an expert. It is also a good sign that you have such a fighter plane of Europeans. The signal was: we have high -tech in Poland and also use these weapons.

Some experts predict attacks with up to 2,000 drones for the Ukraine War. How should NATO deal with it?

You should certainly not only improve the defense, but also have to think about the offensive. It is not enough if we only think about how we ward off drone attacks. If big drone swarms fly to Poland or beyond, there must also be NATO offensive reactions that hurt Russia. Perhaps you have to think about destroying the starting places and switching off the light in Moscow through your own cyber measures.

Then we were in war with Russia.

I don’t see it that way. In history there are many examples of military confrontations below a certain dimension that dealt with the test – and this struggle also prevented wars because the aggressor noticed that he got a bloody nose. It is about showing strength and being prepared for such scenarios. Russia has to be made clear: If NATO does such things, it will hurt you. Putin is still testing us: Now there were 19 drones, maybe there are 50 or 100 next time. There must be red lines to stop Putin without bridging a big war.